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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP
Date Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:07:14 GMT
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first.  I don't believe
> > that we should release a project with existing copyright issues.  If
> > this were to mean that stdcxx graduation would wait until November's
> > Board meeting, I'd be comfortable with that.  How extensive is the
> > issue, and how long will it take to complete?

> It's not a 'copyright issue' per se (as all the paperwork is in
> place), but rather ensuring the license headers follow the currently
> recommended template.  Many of our other projects don't follow the
> templates - and, yes, this will be a blocker for a release - but I
> don't think it needs to hold up graduation.

Is it just a matter of the current template versus an older one?  Is
everything properly under at least some form of the ASF license header?  It
seems that it should be a rather straightforward and mechanical item to
clear up.

Considering that clearing IP and ensuring that every things is in correct
order is one of the primary purposes for the Incubator, I don't agree that
something that is a blocker for a release might not reasonably be a blocker
for graduation.  In fact, haven't people called for providing a release
build to be a graduation requirement?

Is there some reason, other than the fact that this is the weekend before
the Board meeting, why this should not simply be fixed?  Is there a race
that needs to be won?  Is November so much worse than October?

> > How diverse is the community at this time?

> Besides OtherBill and myself, the core of the community is from two
> organizations with RogueWave still being predominate.

> I think (and hope OtherBill agrees) that the community is managing
> itself properly and is open to new contributors.

So primarily still RogueWave, but you feel that they are open to others, and
just have rather minimal diversity at this time?

> Like OtherBill, I'll stick around stdcxx for a while to ensure things
> go smoothly.


	--- Noel

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