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From Paul Hammant <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator
Date Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:19:52 GMT
Well I'm back from vacation :)

The discussion was almost entirely done off-list.  First Jason and I  
kicking the tires of the idea, then with respective co-leads,  
committers etc.  It was pretty extensive.

Why secret ?  PicoContainer and Plexus are two containers in a field  
that is quite full them.  Spring Framework dominates, Guice (very  
very similar to PicoContainer's traditional ideals, but three years  
later) has the magic Google brand that makes it very successful.  We  
wanted to define our fate in private without bloggers pitching in  
with "Pico is crap compared to Spring", or "Pico is a cheap copy of  
Guice" (etc, etc).

Of course we're aware that the Apache way is not off-list activity,  
so consider it the last hurrah of the despot models for Pico/Plexus....

- Paul

On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:14 PM, peter royal wrote:

> On Oct 23, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> I took a peek at plexus and picocontainer mailing lists. One thing  
>> of note is that there seems to have been little discussion on the  
>> picocontainer lists about a move to Apache. Perhaps discussions  
>> were offline, but it's not clear to me how their community, beyond  
>> Paul Hammant, feels about the move... I don't see a big issue with  
>> this (at least not anything that won't be sorted out by  
>> incubation), just passing along what I learned...
> well, that's kinda par-for-the-course with the pico community.. its  
> pretty darn silent :)
> fwiw, there were offline discussions, and the entirety of the  
> active committership was involved.
> -pete
> -- 
> (peter.royal|osi) -

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