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From Steve Loughran <>
Subject Re: Effects on corporate backing withdrawals [was: Incubator Proposal: Pig]
Date Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:59:41 GMT
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Dims wrote:
>> Niclas Hedhman asked:
>>> Do we have any examples where corporate backing has been withdrawn, and
> how
>>> the project was affected, whether inside or outside ASF?
>> TSIK -> Verisign folks lost interest, community did not form, project
> shelved.
> Plus Kabuki, Heraldry, and possibly Lokahi.  We still hope to save the
> latter, as there is consistently a lot of user interest, but the developer
> input has dwindled, and we need developers!

ahh, now I understand why you've been trying to get me on the mail list :)

The biggest departure I know of was not in the incubator, it was the 
implementation of bits of WS-RF that HP was doing under WS;, what was 
it, Apache Muse? suddenly corporate priorities got changed and all FTEs 
got reassigned to something else. It just sat there for a while before 
IBM took up the challenge with a port to Axis2.

similarly, there was a bit of stutter in Axis1 when the IBM team 
suddenly dropped of the net. There was lots of other active developers, 
but there were whole swathes of things like Java-to-WSDL code that came 
from IBM and which the others suddenly needed to learn, because till now 
that area had been well covered  by the IBM folk, but not oustandingly 
well documented. At least they provided lots of tests, which does make 
it easier for others to take on the maintenance task -it reduces the 
amount of damage done while learning.

It seems to me then, that the problem is more than just in-incubator.


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