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From "ant elder" <>
Subject Re: PPMC guidance on new committers
Date Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:14:07 GMT
On 5/30/07, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> Carl Trieloff wrote:
> > One more question on this topic as I have also seen differing views from
> > different members of the Incubator PMC on:  "Who can and who can not
> > send the account setup mail to root?"
> The view that counts is from
>  Please note: that is not
> an Incubator URL.  These are ASF-wide documents, and everyone should
> become
> familar with the contents under
> > Given each new committer vote will have 3 PMC votes, why does a mentor
> > have to send the account setup to root? Why can't the mail to root just
> > contain a link to the vote result with 3 PMC members on it from the
> > general list?
> See the above URL.  Technically, it can come from any PMC member, not just
> a
> Mentor.  It ought to come from a Mentor in terms of social interfactions,
> but if your Mentor(s) are not being responsive, any PMC member can do it.
> > Some PMC members have the view that any PPMC member should be able to
> > send the account setup to root to learn the system, others say it has
> > to be a mentor.
> See above.  Any PMC mamber.
> The Incubator is unique in that we are the sole "umbrella" structure
> (there
> are/were others, and the ASF is deep into the process of eliminating
> them).
> Here in the Incubator, we have to navigate a duality: wanting the PPMC as
> much as possible to manage its project with guidance, and at the same time
> having to ensure PMC oversight.  So although only PMC votes are binding,
> and
> some actions require PMC involvement, this is why having enough Mentors on
> a
> project to satisfy voting requirements and other PMC actions is a good
> thing.

Interesting thread.

One thing i noticed is at it

"If you are acting on behalf of a project which was accepted for incubation,
please get in touch with the sponsoring PMC and let them take care of
requesting any new accounts."

Do members of the sponsoring PMC have any other special powers over PPMC
members other than this being able to send off the email for new committer
account requests?  Do sponsoring PMC members have binding votes on things
like releases or voting in new commiters?


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