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From "William A. Rowe, Jr." <>
Subject Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid
Date Wed, 30 May 2007 01:08:30 GMT
Yoav Shapira wrote:
> That's not true.  Practically speaking, mentors may not have time to
> review an issue that other PPMC members have had plenty of time to
> review and vote upon.

That's true, but we are overseeing their -process- not always the
details.  I have a great deal of confidence in voting +1 on a decision
that requires PMC approval, once I've watched a reasoned discussion
between the PPMC members on the list.

> More importantly, what's the point of having a PPMC and having its
> non-mentors vote on anything, if their votes aren't counted?  I guess
> it's a general question: if PPMC legally mean zilch, why have them at
> all?

It's a TLP PMC on training wheels.  We vote at graduation not for a really
cool codebase - there are a cast of thousands of those out there.  We are
actually voting that this group of committers are ready to manage their
own effort in an ASF spirit.

> I always thought a main point of the Incubator was to teach incoming
> committers how Apache works.  And a main point of how Apache works is
> that all committers on a project have equal votes...

yup.  which is why - barring something very specific that I need to fix
in the project - I'll always vote along with the majority in any healthy
incubating PPMC that I mentor.


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