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From "William A. Rowe, Jr." <>
Subject Re: FtpServer mentor/commiter shortage
Date Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:22:13 GMT
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 03:33, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
>> Currently, there is only one active commiter (me) and no active mentors.
>> This causes some issues with the project. As a way of promoting the
>> project and possibly get more people interested in contributing, it's my
>> belief that we need to get a series of milestone releases out (much like
>> most other incubating projects).
> As Bill points out, no releases before you have more eyeballs. Sad, I agree...
> I think you should concentrate on a couple of higher profile use-cases.
>  - If secure FTP is supported, push for that as an alternative to SSH, which
>    ain't that easy to use with jsch for instance. If secure FTP is not
>    supported, that is where you get the additional developers.
>  - Evangelize why FTP is not dead, and still viable for certain scenarios.

Bottom line, leave some low-hanging fruit.  The only reason folks begin to
hack at a project are 1. to make it do something cool that you want it to do,
or 2. to fix bugs that drive you nuts :)

> Finally, start identifying an exit strategy from Incubator. It will probably 
> not be suitable as a TLP, scope is a bit limited. IIRC, it came out of 
> Avalon, so it can't go back there. Are there any other suitable homes? 
> Tomcat? James? Geronimo? Felix? Mina? Once identified, figure out how to 
> position FtpServer to become a natural part of that TLP, and then actively 
> recruit developers from there.

I strongly think that Tomcat is your best ally here - in the same way that
Apache mod_ftp provides something more interesting than 'just ftp', the
Tomcat project might find ftp services useful.  An ftp connector to tomcat
(for which you have all the code already done, if not quite in a connector
API at this time) would be very interesting.

FTP's not dead, and is the only sane protocol to bootstrap many vanilla boxes.
How many times does a friend ask "why is IE broke?" and you set off to grab
firefox via ftp?  Name any key OSS projects with zero ftp mirrors.

There is one other exit strategy to continue to work with the code, and that
would be labs - you might want to stick your nose in to see if that is a
viable alternative?


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