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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: discussion of release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha
Date Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:16:42 GMT

[Should be off-line, but I think we programmer's need to be pointed into some 
cultural enlightenment every now and then to broaden our horizons.]

On Friday 06 April 2007 11:44, Craig L Russell wrote:
> But please send a link to the meaning of kreti & pleti! I love  
> learning new idioms and it's not in the first 20 Google hits. :-(

Hmmm... I think it is a germanic expression, still used in Sweden. I found 
this (in swedish)

ETYMOLOGI: jfr d. kreti og pleti, t. krethi und plethi, ytterst av hebreiskt 
ursprung, förekommande i ä. bibelöversättningar som benämning på två folkslag 
i konung Davids livvakt, keretéer o. peletéer. I vardagligt bruk numera en 
föraktlig beteckning för allehanda löst folk, personer utan bildning l. 
samhällsställning, den breda allmänheten, vem som helst

Free translation; ultimately of hebrew origin, existing in older Bible 
translations as definition of two groups of people in king David's life 
guard, keretéer and peletéer. In every day use it is now a disrespectful term 
for all kinds of lesser people, people without education, low status in 
society, the broad public, anybody.

I found this fairly interesting email;;read=1383
which actually discusses a much larger scope, but still covers the term, and 
the uncertainties around it.

Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer

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