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From "Davanum Srinivas" <>
Subject Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository
Date Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:35:54 GMT

There are 2 ways here

#1) End user using an Incubator podling m2 artifact directly: End
users need to specify our repo in their pom.xml explicity. this is a
conscious decision.

#2) End user using a regular Apache project that depends on incubator
podling artifact: End users won't have to touch their pom.xml and the
podling jars are automatically downloaded. So we lose the benefit

*BUT* here's what we can do to make #2 a conscious decision. Say
Axis2...we depend on woden. If we mark woden jar with scope=provided
[1], then the end user has to do a conscious import just like they did
in #1. So there is a way to enforce the policy if we wish.



On 3/15/07, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > > As I understand it, so please correct me if I am wrong, if I download
> > > a program that builds using Maven, and it has dependencies in its
> > > pom.xml on Incubator artifiacts, then if Incubator artifacts are
> > > conflated with ASF artifacts, then when I built the program, it will
> > > automatically download the Incubator artifacts from the repository
> > > without my being aware of the dependency.  However, if the Incubator
> > > artifacts are segregated into a separate repository, then Maven will
> > > not download them until I, the downstream user, add that repository to
> > > Maven.  Is that correct or incorrect?
> > If my project directly depends on incubator artifacts, I would need to
> > put the incubator repository in my pom.   However, if I depend on
> > another project that depends on incubator artifacts, I wouldn't because
> > most likely, their poms have a repository entry for the incubator.
> Ah, so the goal of requiring users to make the deliberate and explicit
> decision to use Incubator artifacts is not satisfied because Maven requires
> users to inspect every POM for every dependent in the entire chain.
> > anything from the incubator that it needs will automatically be grabbed
> > without me knowing about it.
> If that is true, and we cannot fix Maven, then I agree with great
> disappointment (and hardly the first time regarding Maven) there is little
> point to a separate repository.  We're not getting the desired benefit.
>         --- Noel
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