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From "William A. Rowe, Jr." <>
Subject Re: Board response to January Report on Heraldry
Date Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:17:57 GMT
Recordon, David wrote:
> Hi all,
> As Ted mentioned there was a thread started yesterday by Kevin Turner (
> box/%3c1170119622.5938.41.camel@localhost%3e) about how JanRain really
> is now committed to moving all of their work into the Heraldry project.
> As to not reproduce everything he said here, I really would encourage
> everyone to go read that message.

No disrespect, David; that's the message that inspired my reaction.  A couple
of small points...

"This time, I think the results were decisive."

1. We - Heraldry Project?  Your Company?  US vs THEM - bad signal.

(I'm not saying you won't have internal dialogs.  Presented this way continues
to highlight the divisions.)

"We are going to abandon darcs and use svn for all Heraldry projects."

2. I was not clear this is ASF svn.

However, there are some patches left in our write queue that we need to

3. US vs THEM again - and "our" queue.  I'm as happy to "flush" any project
   who believes code deserves to be "flushed" at the ASF.

"So later this week you'll see a burst of roughly sixty patches from me in
libraries/python/openid/trunk, and some more from Jonathan in libraries/php."

4. You present these as decided.  Politically correct "I have about NN patches
   to offer back in lib.../trunk and Jonathan has about NN patches to commit
   to libraries/php that are lingering in our vendor branch.  They do ..."

"After that, commits should come in at more regular intervals in more manageable

5. Presented as decided.  You aren't in a position to say that w.r.t. other
   committers.  "I'll try to space out my commit activity after that so it's
   easier to follow, and will give my commits an extra couple of weeks for
   comments."  Again - it's how you chose to phrase things.

>> There are some other things we'll need to update too -- e.g. our buildbot
>> is currently triggered by the darcs apply hook.

first comment I had no issues with.  Your box, your toys, in most projects
either individuals or companies have resources to offer.  May I point you to
the CIA notifications that svn is willing to generate?

They are sent automatically by our svn - configured by infrastructure@a.o for
the purpose of providing instant notices on projects' channels,
but I'm sure it's trivial for you to use these messages directly.  Ask on i@a.o.


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