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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: clarification on SF license and sandboxes
Date Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:51:47 GMT
I notice that the current JIRA "attach file" form does not default  
anything, and requires the submitter to choose explicitly the  
copyright status for the submission. (I think this is a change from  
previous behavior, and if so, a very welcome change).

So it's now very clear that the user must choose whether the  
submission is intended as a contribution.

As far as I'm concerned, this issue is now resolved. If a JIRA  
submission is marked as "Attachment not intended for inclusion" it  
should not be used.

Thanks to everyone who commented.


On Nov 4, 2006, at 5:08 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On 11/2/06, Craig L Russell <> wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>> Thanks for your comments. They seem to contradict what Henri is
>> saying. Can we continue this discussion until we reach some  
>> conclusion?
> from a legal perspective:
> "5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state
> otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in
> the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and
> conditions of this License, without any additional terms or
> conditions. Notwithstanding the above, nothing herein shall supersede
> or modify the terms of any separate license agreement you may have
> executed with Licensor regarding such Contributions."
> selecting the 'no' checkbox seems to reasonably explicit to me
> however, if copyright cannot be claimed on a patch then this is not
> relevant. AIUI US copyright law does not allow copyright to be claimed
> on unoriginal works or technical works capable of only one reasonable
> and correct solution. some bug fixes fall into this category.
> so, it isn't always necessary to gain explicit permission but it's
> almost always a good idea.
> from an ethically perspective, i think that an effort should be made
> to gain active permission whenever the user does not make their
> intentions clear.
> - robert
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Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
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