From general-return-10974-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Sep 15 19:41:46 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 24752 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2006 19:41:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Sep 2006 19:41:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 16470 invoked by uid 500); 15 Sep 2006 19:41:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16330 invoked by uid 500); 15 Sep 2006 19:41:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16319 invoked by uid 99); 15 Sep 2006 19:41:42 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.169] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:41:42 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so330975uge for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:40:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZkMhvYT0b5XFwqxbDsqOKMCoCaU9KRxdLyMg9tV5/CdlDS/JXLL8uQAbuhBlkSZd4q0ePjiSKmErZj9tkPwXr72vFZ3LwqvHnQ47RpTNwT081hhsIHS5x/QVe00Xt3QM6avLs6XN9yNDaDX3g5sKd6fVqLkPGKxG9XwL/1MPYG4= Received: by 10.67.119.5 with SMTP id w5mr5598805ugm; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.30.13 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:40:19 +0100 From: "robert burrell donkin" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Re: Podling Release Requirement In-Reply-To: <200609151045.30047.daniel.kulp@iona.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060913192210.GB12925@bali.sjc.webweaving.org> <200609151045.30047.daniel.kulp@iona.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 9/15/06, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Wednesday September 13 2006 3:22 pm, Leo Simons wrote: > > You know my incubator mantra (well maybe not), "Simpler rules, more > > clarity". > > > > For example, we instate a rule > > > > "Podlings should do a release while in incubation that satisfies all the > > generic ASF release policy guidelines and criteria (in particular legal > > ones) as well as all the incubator-specific rules." > > > > that is simple, clear, and easily verifiable (in so far as those policies > > and rules are simple and clear). Its also rather different from what we > > said in the past. > > I'm not sure I would go so far as requiring a full release. I think the rule > would be: > > "Podlings should produce a release candidate while in incubation that > satisfies all the generic ASF release policy guidelines and criteria (in > particular legal ones) as well as all the incubator-specific rules. The > candidate should be presented to the incubator PMC for verification and > approval, but the podling will not be required to release such candidate." > > Basically, get things "ready" while in the incubator and show the process is > understood, but allow it to be fully released after graduation when > the "incubator" branding can be removed if the PPMC of the podling thinks > that's best for their project. +1 - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org