I will defer to those on the PPMC that had "issues"
with the list.
On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Can you please explain what the criteria was for removing people
> from the comitter list? Can you also detail who was removed? Can
> you also explain why this hasn't been communicated to everyone on
> the dev list so far? And why I have only heard about the final
> decision third hand from this email and an offhand mention in Bo's
> email? I am OK with the PMC's authority as thats what I signed up
> for at Apache, but I feel that if they make such an important
> decision as this they should at least communicate the above.
>
> - Dan
>
> Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
>> Without discussing anything regarding the initial list
>> and who should or should not have been on it, it needs
>> to be reminded that the bar to committership for Incubator
>> podlings is necessarily a bit lower than for real
>> PMCs. After all, one thing the podling must work on is
>> increasing the community.
>>
>> I would recommend that anyone who does not have
>> commit privs but feel they should, to send Email to
>> the dev list with url pointers to patches, etc
>> which serve to indicate the work they've done.
>>
>> As for any "internal" discussions which may or may not
>> have been going on, let me also state that it is
>> really against the ASF to make any sort of development
>> decisions behind closed door, but that occasionally
>> PMCs do need to talk privately within themselves,
>> and any leaking of that information is considered
>> a VERY bad thing to do.
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Mark Little wrote:
>>
>>> Redhat were one of the supporters of the Celtixfire incubator
>>> project and discussed with the proposers to add Kevin Conner and
>>> myself to the list of initial commiters. As part of this, our
>>> names were included in the proposal. Both Kevin and I are
>>> working on Redhat related projects and see a lot of potential
>>> collaboration possibilities with Celtixfire.
>>>
>>> At the formation of the project all members of the group were
>>> asked to submit signed ICLAs, which we did via fax and snail-
>>> mail. However, due to a problem with the fax, after 4 weeks they
>>> hadn't turned up and we re-submitted. This time, at the start
>>> of September, the ICLAs were acknowledged and we were told our
>>> commiter status was in the works. However, despite several
>>> follow up emails, commiter status was not given and no answer
>>> for the delay provided.
>>>
>>> Yesterday we learnt that there has been some internal decision
>>> to limit the number of commiters and not take into account the
>>> listed individuals on the initial commiters list. Is this
>>> normal procedure? Have we been waiting 2 months based on false
>>> assumptions? We believed that, as supporters of the submission,
>>> we had already gone through the process of arguing who should,
>>> or should not, be an initial commiter, so to be presented with
>>> a different result (and one which appears to have been
>>> conducted behind closed doors) is frustrating.
>>>
>>> Clearly this is not a case of "piling on", as joining the
>>> project was discussed with the project submitters prior to the
>>> formation of the group. Something seems wrong here; if there was
>>> no intention of adding us (and perhaps others we don't know
>>> about) as initial commiters, why did the project submitter
>>> include us? On what basis where these accounts not set up? Is
>>> random denial of initial commiters typical?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Director of Standards, Development Manager, JBoss (a Division of
>>> Redhat).
>>
>>
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