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From "Paul Fremantle" <>
Subject Re: Graduate Synapse - was Re: [VOTE] Release Synapse
Date Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:08:21 GMT

Firstly thanks for the scrutiny.

I agree that we've perhaps become a little quiet on the dev list. We
had some very intense discussions earlier this year and having got
over those and worked out a way forward we've just had plenty of
coding to do to implement the changes. I also agree that we perhaps
have a reliance on the IRC chat, but we always post the IRC chat log
to the mailing list, and work from that.

We also were almost all at ApacheCon, so we saved some discussions for
the hackathon and posted the results on the wiki, along with a note to
the mailing list and a follow up on the IRC earlier today, so that
accounts for a quieter period too.

Looking at the numbers, May was pretty much at the same level of
messages that we have had in any month. I don't want to make out that
we have a HUGE community here, but I do believe we have a steady and
active community that meets the requirements of being an Apache

Unlike a project that comes from outside Apache and has the challenge
of bringing a user base over - we are creating the user base and the
project pretty much from scratch. I think we are doing a reasonable
job of that, but I also know that releasing a 1.0 will increase both
the visibility and uptake. Its also true that like any open source
project there are more lurkers than contributers. Chinthaka met a user
at the JAX conference who is using Synapse in production and has never
once posted a note!


On 7/6/06, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> Paul,
> Before I vote, I'd like to ask you a community related question.
> Looking at the June mail archives for Synapse (actually, I looked at other
> months as well), I see a lot of commits but very little discussion.  Yes,
> some, but not much.  More in May than in June, but a downtrend in mailing
> list traffic since last Fall.  I do see reminders regarding your weekly IRC
> chats, but am concerned that your weekly IRC discussions are leading to
> development, and discussion on IRC the following week, but not to discussion
> on the mailing list.
> We have raised this as a concern regarding some other projects whose mailing
> lists are quiet, save for commits, and I consider it as a valid concern with
> respect to community building.
>         --- Noel
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