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From Carl Trieloff <>
Subject Re: Graduate Synapse - was Re: [VOTE] Release Synapse
Date Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:00:53 GMT

I am spending many hours working through Apache processes so do you mind 
if I ask a few questions:

For the graduation,

a.) what are the demographics of the commiters added to the project
in the community building and how/is this considered in graduation?
b.) if there are committers on the project that have binding votes are 
these considered
differently to binding votes external to the project, as I would expect 
the project votes would
always +1 / how many binding votes are needed to graduate?


Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Well, not to chime in "me too" but in order to get up-to-speed
> enough to cast a vote, I also looked over the archives, and
> I saw a lot of code commits but little "online" development
> as well... so it was hard to trace the commits to actual
> community discussion and debate.
> So I share Noel's concern.
> On Jul 6, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Paul,
>> Before I vote, I'd like to ask you a community related question.
>> Looking at the June mail archives for Synapse (actually, I looked at 
>> other
>> months as well), I see a lot of commits but very little discussion.  
>> Yes,
>> some, but not much.  More in May than in June, but a downtrend in 
>> mailing
>> list traffic since last Fall.  I do see reminders regarding your 
>> weekly IRC
>> chats, but am concerned that your weekly IRC discussions are leading to
>> development, and discussion on IRC the following week, but not to 
>> discussion
>> on the mailing list.
>> We have raised this as a concern regarding some other projects whose 
>> mailing
>> lists are quiet, save for commits, and I consider it as a valid 
>> concern with
>> respect to community building.
>>     --- Noel
>> ref:
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