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From Ted Leung <>
Subject [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator
Date Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:33:09 GMT
It seems like the discussion on Heraldry has died down, so I'd like  
to call for a VOTE on accepting Heraldry into the incubator.

In keeping with Apache practice, I'd like to allow 72 hours or so for  
the vote to close, so please vote by 11:59PST on Thursday July 13th.

The current proposal is here:  < 
HeraldryIdentityProposal>, and I've included the full text below.

My vote is +1


= Proposal =
This is a proposal to create a project within the Apache Software  
Foundation to develop technologies around the emerging user-centric  
identity space.  The project would utilize Yadis [1] for URL/XRI- 
based service discovery and OpenID [2] for web based single-sign-on  
and the basis of exchanging profile data.  Yadis is currently being  
standardized within OASIS as part of the XRI effort, within a TC  
committed to creating royalty-free work, and OpenID has emerged as a  
de-facto specification.  The two initial components of the project,  
downloadable perspective, would be an Identity Provider application  
and libraries in various languages that implement Yadis and OpenID.   
The initial goal would be to both provide an out-of-the-box  
application as well as the required libraries for other developers to  
integrate Yadis and OpenID into their existing applications.

To provide some background, the Higgins Project is being actively  
developed within Eclipse and is a framework that will enable users  
and enterprises to integrate identity, profile, and relationship  
information across multiple systems. Using context providers,  
existing and new systems such as directories, collaboration spaces,  
and communications technologies (e.g. Microsoft/IBM WS-*, LDAP,  
email, IM, etc.) can be plugged into the Higgins framework.  
Applications written to the Higgins API can virtually integrate the  
identity, profile, and relationship information across these  
heterogeneous systems.  They current have integration with  
Microsoft's CardSpace and we'll be working with them over the next  
few months to add support for OpenID.  It hasn't yet been determined,  
nor does it need to be right now, if the code to tie OpenID into  
Higgins will live within Apache or Eclipse.

= Rationale =
While identity systems such as X.509 have existed for many years, and  
more recently SAML and the Liberty Alliance framework, only within  
the past two years has there been a true emergence of user-centric  
technologies.  Pursuant to Kim Cameron’s laws of identity,  
technologies such as LID, Yadis, OpenID, and Sxip were defined to put  
control of a person’s digital identity back into their own hands.

Both Yadis and OpenID have reached a point where they have millions  
of users and a strong community backing.  On May 28th 2006, Brion  
Vibber of WikiMedia announced in a Google Tech Talk that WikiPedia  
would support both of them within the following month.  This sort of  
broad adoption and traction has not been seen with other technologies  
of this kind in this space.

By bringing these technologies to one place, these communities will  
have a place to fully converge and continue the development of  
interoperable implementations.  Additionally, by working with the  
Higgins Project, ASF will be able to provide a foundation where a  
person can use one or more digital identities consistently across  
blogs, eCommerce sites, and portals as well as even high-risk  
transactions via their desktop computer.

Currently Apache does not offer any project such as the one being  
proposed.  Integration with projects such as Lenya would definitely  
be encouraged.

= Initial Goals =
  * Expansion of Yadis and OpenID libraries into additional languages  
beyond the existing Python, Ruby, Perl, and PHP libraries
  * OpenID authentication specification revision to fix known  
security considerations, investigate compatibility with the DIX IETF  
proposal, describe Yadis integration, and allow either an URL or XRI  
be used as the End User’s Identifier
  * Continue the development of a data transfer protocol on top of  
OpenID to allow the exchange of profile data as well as other secure  
  * Investigate existing mechanisms for profile exchange, namely Sxip  
2.0 and SAML, and investigate how they would be layered atop OpenID
  * Integration of the OpenID Authentication protocol with the  
Higgins framework to provide desktop integration
  * Extension of OpenID to support non-browser based authentication  
use cases.  ie authentication to a Subversion server, creation of  
mod_authnz_openid, using your OpenID Identity without modifying the  
svn client-side tool

= Known Risks =

== Commercial Interest ==
  * Many companies are currently working to build businesses  
supported on top of these technologies.  As part of the code  
contributions, VeriSign will contribute source to their Personal  
Identity Provider to provide a complete base with both libraries and  
a sample application.  VeriSign intends to continue development of  
the PIP and to contribute it within ASF, although it hopes others  
will contribute to it as well.

This proposal is not the result of an orphaned or abandoned project,  
but is the result of the continued emergence of a strong community  
around these technologies.  Many of the initial contributors have a  
strong tie to the Open Source community and do not rely on their  
salaried position to continue contributing code.

The OpenID and Yadis communities have both been built on a foundation  
of meritocracy with open discussions to shape the technologies.  The  
initial committers certainly see the value in the Apache brand and  
believe the emerging community will benefit from further widespread  
collaboration as well as give the existing developer community a  
place to converge and create a community that will outlive the founders.

= Initial Source =
OpenID has been in development since the summer of 2005.  It  
currently has an active community (over 15 million enabled accounts)  
and libraries in a variety of languages.  Additionally it is  
supported by and is continuing to gain traction in  
the Open Source Community.

Yadis has been in development since late 2005 and the specification  
has not changed since early 2006.  Like OpenID, it has libraries in  
various languages and there is a large overlap between the two  
communities.  The specification is currently being incorporated in  
the XRI Resolution Working Draft of the OASIS XRI TC (which operates  
under a 100% royalty-free IPR mode as detailed in the XRI TC charter  

= Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan =
== Initial Submissions ==
  * The OpenID specification and content on from Brad  
Fitzpatrick of Six Apart, Ltd. and David Recordon of VeriSign, Inc.
  * The domains and from Brad Fitzpatrick of Six  
Apart, Ltd. and Johannes Ernst of NetMesh, Inc.
  * OpenID libraries in Python, Ruby, Perl, PHP, and C# from JanRain,  
  * Yadis libraries in Python, Ruby, Perl, and PHP from JanRain, Inc.
  * OpenID and Yadis test suites from JanRain, Inc.
  * OpenID libraries in Perl from Brad Fitzpatrick of Six Apart, Ltd.
  * OpenID Consumer Ruby on Rails plugin from VeriSign, Inc. and  
EastMedia Group.
  * PHP based OpenID Identity Provider from JanRain, Inc.
  * Patch to enable OpenID and LID support in MediaWiki from NetMesh
  * Yadis conformance test suite from NetMesh and VeriSign, Inc.

We will also be soliciting contributions of further plugins and  
patches to various pieces of Open Source software.

== Additional Submissions ==
  * Source of the Personal Identity Provider from VeriSign, Inc. and  
EastMedia Group, Inc. ideally by August 1st, 2006.

= Resources =

We foresee only standard Apache developer resources to be created.

Mailing lists:
  * heraldry-dev
  * heraldry-commits
  * heraldry-user

Subversion repository:

Jira project

= Documentation =

[1] Information on Yadis can be found at:[[BR]] [[BR]]

[2] Information on OpenID can be found at:[[BR]] [[BR]]

The mailing list for both OpenID and Yadis is located at:[[BR]]

[3] Information on the Eclipse Higgins project can be found at:[[BR]]

The OpenXRI mailing lists are located at:[[BR]]

= Initial Committers =
  * David Recordon (
  * Andy Dale (
  * Brad Fitzpatrick (
  * Brian Ellin (
  * Dan Lyke (
  * Dan Quelhorst (
  * Drummond Reed (
  * Johannes Ernst (
  * Jonathan Daugherty (
  * Josh Hoyt (
  * Les Chasen (
  * Matt Pelletier (
  * Michael Graves (
  * Paul Trevithick (
  * Steve Churchill (
  * Trotter Cashion (
  * Wil Tan (

= Apache Sponsor =
We respectfully request that the Incubator PMC sponsor this project.

= Apache Champion =
Ben Laurie ( – Champion and Mentor[[BR]]
Paul Querna (pquerna - Mentor[[BR]]
Ted Leung (twl - Mentor

= Contact =
David Recordon, Innovator for Advanced Products and Research[[BR]]
VeriSign, Inc.[[BR]]
487 East Middlefield Road[[BR]]
M/S MV6-2-1[[BR]]
Mountain View, CA 94043[[BR]]

Phone: +1-650-426-4424

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