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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator
Date Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:37:26 GMT
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

> A number of infrastucture issues.  Votes from the Incubator PMC and
> PMC.  To do that responsibly, I'd say that we would want to see
> having demonstrated that they understand how to practice as an ASF
> community.  Such things are subjective, and typically have taken some
> Looking at the historical record: Derby took a year; Nutch took 5 months;
> JaxME and jUDDI took 6 months; JDO took 7 months.  Those are just a few
> projects that have graduated to another TLP, and every community is
> different, but ActiveMQ and ServiceMix haven't been in the Incubator for 3
> months, and are still moving over their infrastructure.  Anyone see a need
> to rush to judgment?

> I don't see any rush here.  Is it not a natural question to ask what
> else is left to do?

Sure.  And I did answer.  There are objective critera, and a subjective
judgment that the community is ready.  The references to other projects,
with the caveats, were in terms of setting expectations based upon what has
been the case over a large set of projects.  As a general rule, communities
of any size do spend more time than ActiveMQ has spent so far.

	--- Noel

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