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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Subject Re: [POLICY] Lazy account creation
Date Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:04:46 GMT
I think we have two cases here that we need to treat differently:  
public and private code.  In the case of publicly developed code, we  
can easily check the public source repository and mailing lists and  
say "hey, these people did contribute to the project".  I the case of  
privately developed code, we can not make this determination and  
"lazy account creation" seems like a good way to determine who is  
actually contributing.


On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> robert burrell donkin asked:
>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>> What we'll probably do is run it like we're running Harmony.
>>> The list of committers on the proposal are the people we
>>> expect to show up, but we won't be creating accounts by
>>> default - we'll need to have each person say "yes, I'm ready
>>> and will be contributing immediately" before making the
>>> account for them.
>> this seems a useful tradition: is it too early to codified
>> this into policy?
> I'd say so, yes, it is too early.  Could probably use more discussion.
> I'm not quite sure what to make of it.  What is it trying to  
> accomplish?  If
> someone comes up and says that they are ready to commit, what is  
> this doing?
> Fast tracking?  Geir already responded with a concern of his own, and
> suggested modifications if the rule.  So I'll ask a more basic  
> question: do
> we need a rule for this, or can the human beings responsible for  
> managing
> the project make a human decision based upon the situation?
> Keep in mind something that I've said a lot lately: generally, I  
> prefer to
> use SHOULD, rather than SHALL, leaving decisions in the hands of  
> people
> instead of pre-packaged rules.  SHOULD provides guidelines --  
> hopefully best
> practices -- while still providing leeway.
> I believe that we've already established a policy that recommends a
> relatively low bar for Committer status.  At least thus far, what  
> that means
> has been up to the PPMC for each podling.
> With respect to the message subject, I certainly do not have a  
> problem with
> not creating accounts until someone is ready to actually do  
> something, but
> keep in mind the lag time involved in the account creation workflow,
> including the CLA gathering phase.  Beyond this, what else would be  
> helpful
> to recommend, and is the recommendation Incubator specific?
> 	--- Noel
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