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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: Incubation Process and PPMCs
Date Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:20:48 GMT

On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

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> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>  -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project
>>  -- Upon acceptance, we should establish the initial
>>     PPMC as consisting of the Mentors.
> I'd like to add that I think a PPMC is a requirement,
> not a 'nice-to-have.'  We have some podlings either
> with no PPMCs or with PPMCs instantiated quite late.

I think I'm seeing too much incipient dogmatism here.  A little while  
ago I remember reading about how it was possible for code to zip  
through the incubator on its way to become part of an existing  
project, resting only long enough for the legal/provenance questions  
to be resolved.  I think this is still a good path to keep open, and  
don't see the use of a PPMC for it.  I also think that there are all  
sorts of paths between that and the path of incubating an entirely  
new project intended to become a TLP.  For instance, my understanding  
is that ActiveMQ is coming to be part of geronimo.  It comes with a  
lot of new committers, as well as a lot of people who are already  
geronimo committers.  To me the main point of incubation is to  
basically get everyone used to working more closely together, and  
when we have verified that this is happening, we can bring all the  
activemq people on board into geronimo.  I don't see how a PPMC is  
going to help this process: it looks to me as if it will get in the way.

david jencks

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