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From Niclas Hedhman <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA
Date Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:10:32 GMT
On Saturday 11 March 2006 04:00, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> For instance, both Cayenne and OpenJPA
> wanted to be sponsored by the Incubator PMC and go TLP immediately
> even though there is already know-how in Apache in this field in the
> DB project so that at least in my opinion, a sponsoring by the DB PMC
> would be the more useful thing (whether the project then goes TLP
> after graduation or not).

The PMCs[1] have legal obligations towards the foundation, and has nothing to 
do with collaboration, technical know-how, code re-use and so on.

If these things are a goal, it probably so that PMCs are not the tool to 
achieve that, and the discussion should be focusing on the tools of 

For instance; I still find it odd that there is "one place" of collaboration 
for a project. IMHO, JPA/JDO/Hibernate are barely DB related any more than 
they are XML related. In both cases, users of a underlying technology.


[1] There is a 1:1 relationship between TLP and PMC, and a TLP itself has no 
real formal substance other than as the home of a PMC.

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