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From Alex Boisvert <>
Subject Re: Ode / BPEL Donation of BPEL 2.0 Engine
Date Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:29:21 GMT

This raises an interesting point.  Is the goal of the project to produce
a BPEL engine?   If so, then we could have separation between BPEL
(processes) and workflow (human tasks).   I think this would help
modularity and clarify project focus.

In order words,  workflow-related pieces could go into a separate
project and the existing code from Agila would be split between the two
resulting projects.

So we would end up with something like:

Apache BPEL => Merge of PXE, Sybase BPE and Agila BPEL
Apache BPEL4People => Merge of Agila workflow and Intalio BPEL4People

(... and possibly other donations)


Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

> Could I presume to suggest something as obvious as "Apache BPEL" or
> similar?  makes it easier for people to grok what we're doing.  I know
> it's not terribly imaginative, but might make it easy for people to
> recognize it as a BPEL project.  (Like "ActiveBPEL")
> geir
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>> Bill and Ismael,
>> Do be clear, as I understand it from comments such as:
>>   Ismael: "Intalio [working] alongside Sybase"
>>   Bill Flood: "My preference is simply that we apply our
>>                combined talent to work towards something
>>                greater than the sum of the parts."
>> and from a telephone call with Bill, the desire on the part of both
>> donors
>> is to have a single project, rather than two separate ones, which
>> will start
>> from both codebases, and work together with others on a union.  FWIW,
>> comments that I have received in the past day indicate a great deal of
>> excitement about this possibility, so hopefully something really
>> great will
>> be the payoff from the initial angst.
>> Is there a consensus to call this joint project Ode?  If so, we can
>> go ahead
>> with that.  Else, if you wanted we could start with "bpel-wg-dev@",
>> so that
>> you can immediately start, and leave "Ode" available for use later at
>> graduation or if there arises a later desire to have separate PXE and
>> "Ode"
>> projects.
>> I prefer, as it seems both of you do, the joint community.  Just
>> asking the
>> question.
>>     --- Noel

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