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From Martin Sebor <>
Subject Re: [doc] podling software releases
Date Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:10:46 GMT
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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Good info, thanks! The relationship (committers == PPMC) seems
reasonable to me, especially in light of the current discussion
of releases.


> Martin Sebor wrote:
>>I thought every committer's vote counted as binding.
> Grey-area time here..  In projects where committers == PMC,
> that's the case.  The confusion probably has its origins
> in the HTTP server project back before there *was* an ASF
> or PMCs.  There were just committers and non-committers.
> Over time, and I'm sure Roy can/will give history and point
> to a specific document, but the answer now is that because
> of the structure and formal/legal incorporated nature of
> the ASF, only PMCer votes are binding.  Projects that
> treat non-PMCer's votes as binding are mistaken; Roy has
> the chapter and verse.
>>I also thought that not every committer was necessarily a PPMC member.
> Correct, and that's another area of confusion and contention.
> Some people think that for TLP, committers should == PMC, and
> for podlings committers should == PPMC.  But not everyone
> feels that way.
> Personally, I think that if you trust someone to the extent
> of giving hir direct access to the repositories, you should
> also trust hir to be part of the PMC (such as having a
> binding vote, being able to vote on other potential
> committers, et cetera).  To put it another way, s/he has
> earned merit sufficient to get repository karma.  Why
> should s/he have to earn *more* merit to be on the PMC?
> And how would that merit be earned?
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