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From Sam Ruby <>
Subject Re: Let's rewind!!! (Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project)
Date Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:42:38 GMT
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> Are there risks to making this a TLP, i.e. do we know that there will be
> enough traction to get it out of the incubator on its own?   Wouldn't it
> make sense to incubate it in an existing project and if the community
> grows, graduated it to a TLP?  I think that we've seen many TLP projects
> struggle to get out incubation and sub-projects grow into TLPs.

No/no (there are two questions in the first sentence).  Not by default.
 We've also seen sub-projects that have struggled to get out of
incubation.  And the sub-projects that have grown into TLPs were

The board established the incubator for a reason.  Previously, projects
like Jakarta incubated a number of projects, and thereby inadvertantly
excluded a number of people from the process.

> If it goes into Geronimo, is there sufficient Geronimo membership from
> the Axis group to ensure broad adoption?  If not, can they be easily added?

This discussion would be a lot easier if it were of the form "here's
code that I would like to see at the ASF, and I'd like to participate
and make use of it in the following manner... independent of where the
code ends up".

But as it stands, the discussion to date gives the appearance that a
number of people are more interested in where this code ends up than in
the code itself.

- Sam Ruby

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