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From Jeremias Maerki <>
Subject Re: License grant
Date Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:24:45 GMT
I went to legal-discuss with this and received a satisfactory answer.
Here's the proposed patch to the IP clearance page. If I don't get any
negative feedback I'll apply the patch within 48 hours.

Index: C:/Dev/
--- C:/Dev/	(revision
+++ C:/Dev/	(working
@@ -36,7 +36,8 @@
       <p>The receiving PMC is responsible for doing the work. The Incubator is
 simply the repository of the needed information. Once a PMC directly
-checks-in a filled-out short form, everything is done.
+checks-in a filled-out short form, the Incubator PMC will need to approve the 
+paper work after which point the receiving PMC is free to import the code.
       <p>All PMCs must handle incoming code in this way. Any code that was
 developed outside of the ASF SVN repository must be processed like
@@ -208,6 +209,30 @@
+      <section id="notes">
+        <title>Additional notes</title>
+        <p>
+          The software grant requires that "Licensor owns or has sufficient 
+          rights to contribute the software source code...". In the case where
+          there are multiple entities involved that only together have sufficient
+          rights (for example in the case of an existing external project with
+          multiple contributors), there are basically two possibilities to continue:
+        </p>
+        <ol>
+          <li>
+            All entities sign the same software grant together and submit one software 
+            grant form. This is preferred but obviously can complicate the process
+            considerably.
+          </li>
+          <li>
+            The alternative is that each party sign its own software grant while 
+            everyone references the same contribution (designated by a URL and an MD5
+            hash over the ZIP file representing the contribution). It is recommended 
+            that a comment is added to the software grant form that it is only a part
+            in the puzzle.
+          </li>
+        </ol>
+      </section>

On 01.02.2006 14:09:02 Manuel Mall wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 February 2006 20:40, Leo Simons wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 08:05:01PM +0800, Manuel Mall wrote:
> > > We would like to include a software module currently hosted on
> > > SourceForge into the codebase of the Apache FOP project. The
> > > developers who wrote the module have indicated their willingness to
> > > do so (actually are very keen to do this) and we have their ICLAs.
> > > What I don't quite understand is the additional software grant
> > > ( required.
> > >
> > > On the grant form is says: ""Licensor owns or has sufficient
> > > rights to contribute the software source code". In this case we
> > > don't have a single Licensor but a group of people. How does the
> > > form work in such a case as it seems to make the assumption that
> > > the Licensor is either a single person or a single organisation?
> >
> > I think the answer is that every person from that group sends in the
> > grant paperwork. The legal-discuss mailing list is probably where to
> > query for an authoritive answer.
> >
> OK, I'll go to legal-discuss with this question. The problem is if I for 
> example would be a contributor to the SourceForge project in question 
> and would get presented with the form I won't be able to sign it (in 
> good conscience) as I individually have not sufficient rights to 
> contribute the software.
> > I think that the receiving PMC is the body responsible for figuring
> > this stuff out, so they should probably be CCed in (sorry, don't know
> > top-of- head which PMC is for FOP).
> It was a member of the receiving PMC (xmlgraphics) who send me to this 
> mailing list for clarification :-).
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the base URL for incubator-related IP stuff information.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Leo
> Manuel

Jeremias Maerki

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