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From Rob Davies <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project
Date Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:29:29 GMT
  The way this 'debate' has continued has been very embarrassing -   
It just makes me wonder why anyone would consider donating code to  
Apache in the future ...

On 5 Feb 2006, at 21:03, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

> James Strachan wrote:
>> We have received the generous donation of a complete and working  
>> BPE engine to the ServiceMix project...
>> 200602.mbox/% 
>> the contributor has offered to donate to Apache & complete the  
>> necessary software grants & IP clearance and to work with us on  
>> integrating it into ServiceMix.
> I assume we'd all get to see the code under an Apache License  
> before deciding to accept.  How else could we vote it in?
> [SNIP]
> I'll go out on a limb here :
>> [X] -1 I object because: .......
> ... I think that a BPEL engine is something that spans many of the  
> WS and SOA oriented projects at the ASF, such as ServiceMix,  
> Tuscany, Synapse, Agila, etc...
> However, that's not my main reason, because honestly, if I was the  
> only one that cared about that, I wouldn't ever attempt to stand in  
> the way of people wanting to do cool things.
> However, this proposal has sent up far too many red flags, has  
> alienated too many people, and is causing too much of a bad feeling  
> in people, for ServiceMix, for Geronimo and for the ASF in general.
> I'd suggest you make a big effort to cool things down and get a  
> broad conversation going, over at general@incubator, drive to  
> consensus, and then regroup and try again.
> geir

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