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From Davanum Srinivas <>
Subject Let's rewind!!! (Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project)
Date Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:36:05 GMT

There is no proposal, there is just a zip, unless someone is a
clairvoyant, we can't figure out things like. *PLEASE* CC

- Which specific version of the spec is implemented?
- Where are the list of known issues?
- Where is the TODO list?
- Why is Axis version 1.2 RC1 (and not even Axis 1.2 final even if we
forget that the current version is Axis 1.3)
- Is there any relation to workflow?
- Is there no opportunity for interaction with our Existing incubation
project Agila?
- Are there people from sybase who will be working?
- Geronimo is becoming an umbrella rapidly and now ServiceMix wants to
be one too?
- Why are people talking as though the code is FINAL
  (Quoting greg - "there is no need to develope a community around this code")
  (Quoting Rob - "If you've looked at the proposed donated code, this
BPEL engine is complete, I can't see any sense in combining it with
something else ?" )
- Do *ANY* of the existing servicemix committers know this code inside out?
- If people are not going to touch this contrib code with a barge pole
then why should it be accepted?


On 2/2/06, James Strachan <> wrote:
> We have received the generous donation of a complete and working BPE
> engine to the ServiceMix project...
> 200602.mbox/%
> the contributor has offered to donate to Apache & complete the
> necessary software grants & IP clearance and to work with us on
> integrating it into ServiceMix.
> For those of you maybe not aware; ServiceMIx is an ESB project
> defined around JBI (JSR 208) the JCP standard API to integration
> components along with being the standard container model for a BPE.
> ServiceMix already has the JBI container and has a suite of JBI
> integration components already for smart routing, transformation,
> rules, scripting, auditing etc...
> So it makes complete sense to add a BPE to that component suite. Note
> that since ServiceMix already has integration components to Apache
> Axis and Apache Tuscany, the integration of the BPE with ServiceMix
> should benefit those projects too (with Apache Synapse possibly too
> via the Axis integration - though we need to work on that one a bit).
> Also having a BPE fully integrated into Geronimo via the JBI
> container would mean that we could start to orchestrate pretty much
> everything in the Geronimo stack! I'm certainly very excited by this
> move...
> [ ] +1 accept the donation into the ServiceMix incubator project
> [ ] 0  don't mind either way
> [ ] -1 I object because: .......
> Here's my +1
> James
> -------

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