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From Raphaël Luta <>
Subject Re: ajax proposal?
Date Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:40:30 GMT
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 13:38 +0100, Raphaël Luta wrote:
>>Seeing Zimbra current OSS efforts with this toolkit (even with an ASF member
>>in their team), I have a hard time believing this proposal is anything but a
>>branding exercise to help this toolkit stand out in the crowd of Ajax toolkits.
>>My "admission bar" for such proposals is set much higher than usual.
> With all due respect Raphael, I find this unreasonable. You can't make
> random "admission bars" for projects based on personal prejudices. What
> I suggest is that you join the project as a mentor and make sure push
> them hard to make sure they come out clean as whistle or hold them in
> incubation until its killed. That way you convince yourself that the
> project is good *from the ASF points of view* (community, meritocracy
> etc.) but not from things like visibility point of view which by no
> means are a requirement.

I would agree with this if there was no immediate percieved benefit
when you are in Incubator, unfortunately it seems projects under
incubation are still perceived by the larger community as endorsed by
As long as this is true, accepting a project in the incubator even if
it stays there indefinitely *does* matter to me.
In the end, I don't think it's a personal prejudice but more a lack of
trust in the motivations of the proposal.

> What's the status of the vote? I'm confused by calls to repeal the vote
> and modifications to the vote and all that. I thought we were spsed to
> be a simple bunch of, um, people but it sure doesn't look like it! ;-)

I'm confused too by the voting process and repeated proposals even before
the discussion has died down.

> Am I spsed to vote my choice at this time or is there no vote going on?
> So confused. Must be the freezing weather in Sri Lanka these days. Its
> been like 65F in Colombo at nite. Brrrrrr.

27F here in Paris, It sure wakes you up in the morning :)

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