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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
Date Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:54:57 GMT
J Aaron Farr wrote:
> On 1/10/06, David E. Jones <> wrote:
>>We are all looking forward to your comments and desire to express in
>>advance appreciation for all that you have done and are doing for the
>>open source world and the software world in general through your
>>efforts in the Apache Software Foundation.
> This proposal has caught my interest.  I'd be willing to help mentor.

It has also caught my attention, mainly because, purely by coincidence I 
am currently evaluating OfBiz for a new project. I'm still in the early 
stages, but so far I am very impressed, although I have not yet dived 
into the code.

If we select OfBiz for this project. I would certainly be participating 
in the community, and would probably be able to help mentoring if required.

> A couple of points:
> The proposal says that this project is to be sponsored by the ASF
> Board.  Is that correct?  Did the Board already +1 on or are we still
> searching for a sponsoring entity?
> Apache has generally stayed away from end user applications and
> instead focuses on infrastructure and middleware.  That's not
> completey true, but is a good rule of thumb.  For example, a lot of
> contributors and supporters of the ASF use our code to create
> ecommerce products.  I'm a little worried that some may view this
> proposal as the ASF attempting to compete with these contributors.

Many ASF projects compete with many other products. As far as I 
understand things the ASF prides itself on not allowing any commercial 
entities or individuals to dictate what the ASF does and how it does it.

Furthermore, there are two distinct parts to the project. The framework 
and the applications. The framework certainly fits the "mould" of ASF 
projects. As presented with OfBiz the applications are more like very 
complete examples of what can be done with the framework. They are 
complete applications, but they are quite cumbersome with respect to UI 
design (i.e. all form DB fields are shown on pretty much all forms since 
they are auto generated).

It looks to me like there is quite a bit of work in turning the OfBiz 
applications into something a customer would want.



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