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From "David N. Welton" <>
Subject Re: Proposal for OFBiz to Join the ASF
Date Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:36:50 GMT
J Aaron Farr wrote:
> On 1/10/06, David E. Jones <> wrote:

>>We are all looking forward to your comments and desire to express in
>>advance appreciation for all that you have done and are doing for the
>>open source world and the software world in general through your
>>efforts in the Apache Software Foundation.

> This proposal has caught my interest.  I'd be willing to help mentor.


> A couple of points:

> The proposal says that this project is to be sponsored by the ASF
> Board.  Is that correct?  Did the Board already +1 on or are we still
> searching for a sponsoring entity?

The board response was along the lines of "why is this here?", so I
guess the Incubator PMC should be the sponsoring entity if there is to
be one.

> Apache has generally stayed away from end user applications and
> instead focuses on infrastructure and middleware.  That's not
> completey true, but is a good rule of thumb.  For example, a lot of
> contributors and supporters of the ASF use our code to create
> ecommerce products.  I'm a little worried that some may view this
> proposal as the ASF attempting to compete with these contributors.

I think we should look at whether this project is a good fit for the ASF
 (I think so, or I wouldn't have mentioned the idea to them) rather than
if we are stepping on someone's toes.  Geronimo steps on toes.  Harmony
does to some degree, as well.  Once upon a time, people sold web
servers, and httpd stepped on their toes.

And for what it's worth, the problems that OFBiz attempts to solve are
hard, and there is a lot of room for competitors - both those that build
other systems as well as those that build on top of OFBiz.  JIRA, for
instance, is built on top of code from the OFBiz guys.

David N. Welton

Linux, Open Source Consulting

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