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From "James Carman" <>
Subject RE: a few steps before approving a project
Date Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:28:13 GMT
So, does that mean that Jakarta Commons Proxy will have to go through the
Incubator?  Right now, it's a commons sandbox project, so it's not
officially supported.  The code first lived in my "syringe" project I
created over at  It was all developed by me under the Apache
License 2.0.  Will Commons Proxy have to go through the Incubator to get
into commons proper?  Or, should it be in the incubator now? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Ruby [] 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: a few steps before approving a project

Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:43 -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
>>The Incubator's charter from the board says:
>>        <>
>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby is
>>        responsible for the acceptance and oversight of new products
>>        submitted or proposed to become part of the Foundation; and be
>>        it further
>>Previously, the board had to deal with this directly.  The board delegated

>>this to the Incubator PMC.
> Whoa. I had understood this as "incoming external projects" instead of
> any in-bred ones. 
> So by your (and Jim's) interpretation, we did Axis2 wrong?? We started
> that with people who were Axis committers and started with no external
> code contrib from anyone. We didn't go thru the incubator - just created
> an SVN tree and started hacking. 
> Are you guys saying that that was wrong and that the incubator had to
> get involved to teach us the Apache way? Huh?
> Can we get board clarification on this please? Reading the above
> resolution that is by no means clear, at least to me.

If the SVN tree was always on ASF infrastructure, the code was always
under the Apache License, and the committers were all ASF committers,
then no trip through the incubator is necessary.

If any ONE of these things are not true (example: code on CodeHaus
created by ASF committers with Apache license), then incubator needs to
be involved to ensure that there is a proper audit trail.

- Sam Ruby

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