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From Cliff Schmidt <>
Subject Re: a few steps before approving a project
Date Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:08:51 GMT
On 8/31/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <> wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:01 -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> > BTW, the XMLBeans PMC just voted to add a single member to the PMC,
> > and even that required a 72-hour wait after getting Board
> > acknowledgement (which is fine with me)....why should there be
> > fewer checks to get an entire project approved?
> You're missing a key point: Incubation is supposed to be the *starting
> point* for getting a project into the ASF. Graduation is the process for
> getting it approved, not starting incubation. Are you seriously
> suggesting that we change that?? If not IMO the checks need to be *while
> incubating* and not prior to incubation, but YMMV.

My point is that the approval of a project for incubation has been
proven many times to have PR impact and other ramifications (whether
the ASF drafts or approves a press release or not).  And if there are
any concerns about a project that can be known before accepting it for
incubation, I think the concerns should be considered at that time,
not after what is typically a 6-12 month graduation   period.  I
continue to stand behind out incubator branding guidelines, but I also
think we have to recognize that simply accepting a project for
incubation is perceived as a statement by the ASF.

This is why I think we need to add more consideration to the
acceptance of projects for incubation.


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