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From Mark Wielaard <>
Subject Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report
Date Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:12:00 GMT
Hi Roy,

On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 13:52 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> Note, however, that the people crying about the community terms
> are a bunch of idiots.  They already require their contributors to
> assign copyright to the FSF.  As such, the mailing list discussion
> is completely irrelevant to their redistribution rights because
> they can't use any code from that discussion without a separate
> copyright assignment from the original author.  Geir
> should tell them to go suck an egg, but he is far too nice. ;-)

Nice Harmony spirit there.

Just like the ASF, the FSF likes to have paperwork on file for all
contributions to any of their projects. But also just like the ASF, the
FSF does distribute external parts. Even things that are not under the
GPL or LGPL. If you look at the GNU Classpath project for example you
will find a couple of examples in our external/ directory. These are
projects which we wish to distribute together with GNU Classpath and for
which we know the distribution terms are acceptable and they come from
known good upstream projects. Of course ASF products would qualify as
known good upstream, since the paperwork you require for contributions
are so similar to what the FSF requires in the form of individual and
company disclaimers. And if the distribution terms are GPL-compatible we
would be happy to ship anything that comes out of our harmony work.

We decided to take legal/political issues off the harmony list itself so
we could concentrate on technical matters for now and hoped that any
(perceived) license issues blocking further collaboration between the
groups could be worked out in the meantime. Without creating huge flame
wars on the list. That is why Geir brings it up here. To see if the
incubation process allows for these kind of compromises to get more
people involved. I really hope there will be more substantial feedback
then "go suck an egg" if no compromise is possible. The above really
isn't that helpful.



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