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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: releasing from incubator? -- was: Re: a beehive release and the JSR 181 TCK issue
Date Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:47:36 GMT
Richard Feit wrote:

> it would be very healthy for us to focus solely on exiting
> the Incubator.  We are totally committed to building a real
> dev community around Beehive

Neither of those was in doubt.  :-)

> we need all the guidance we can get in achieving that.

How has it been going?  Have you had input from the project Mentor(s)?

> the main issue that I'm aware of is an insufficient amount of
> discussion on the beehive-dev list.

Does the PPMC concur with that, or are you simply acknowledging my

> we clearly need to have more design/discussion in the list
> (and, incidentally, less of it within JIRA issues).  I
> feel that this is something we can address.


> Beyond this major issue, do you feel that there are other hurdles
> for us to clear before exiting the Incubator?

When we seem more discussion on the list, we'll all have a better idea of
how well the core principles of the ASF are being applied.  After all,
Incubation isn't a set of hurdles to clear; it is a process to (attempt to)
ensure that projects have clean IP and a healthy community that follows ASF

	--- Noel

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