Noel, To keep this discussion honest and open, I would appreciate if we could dissociate it from the particular case of Logging Services. I am happy to discuss whatever questions or comments you might have on LS on a separate thread. Is that OK with you? At 04:38 PM 3/14/2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > I don't think the LS PMC could take over log4x code if the > > current contributors stopped working on it. > > (a) In what what is the Logging PMC managing the project? > What makes log4__ part of Logging other than a common-ish API? > (b) What about community development? > >As a general rule, developing community is essential to the long-term >viability of a project. And in the case of Loggging, it sounds as if you've >really got an ontological collection of otherwise unrelated projects, which >at the least means that each needs community development. > >Dw addressed the rest of your issues, and I'm in agreement with him, so I'll >leave his words to stand. > > > What do people involved with several different projects have to say > > on the matter? > >Whatever they wish to say. One thing that I like about the Incubator is >that it provides a focal point for discussing ASF practices. > > --- Noel -- Ceki Gülcü The complete log4j manual: http://www.qos.ch/log4j/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org