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From Clinton Begin <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate iBATIS and recommend as TLP
Date Tue, 29 Mar 2005 05:22:15 GMT

Although we are a database related project, I don't believe we could
join without a significant change to what
means. has its own PMC, which (AFAIK) has no knowledge of
iBATIS, nor would we want to impose such burden upon them.  iBATIS is
a large, growing project with both Java and .NET editions (and soon,
possibly a PHP edition).  We have a user base that ranges into the
thousands and active mailing lists and issues that require the
attention of an involved and experienced PMC.

We do not mind being "organized" under domain name, if
that's all it means. I'm a fan of organizing into broader
categories, while maintaining independent project control.  However,
if it means sharing a PMC, source control, mailing lists, website and
other key resources, then I'm afraid that simply will not work for our

As it stands now, my (totally non-binding) vote is an enthusiastic -1.

Best regards,
Clinton Begin

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:41:18 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <> wrote:
> Ted,
> It seems appropriate to graduate, but should iBATIS be a TLP, or go under
>, along with Derby and related Jakarta Commons code that has
> been moving, in your opinion?
>         --- Noel
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