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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: [RT] Incubator Reorg
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:12:56 GMT
Nicola Ken wrote:
> Lenya will become a sub-project of Cocoon. Or better, a sub-codebase of
> the same project. It's fair to assume that once incubation is finished,
> the Lenya codebase will go to the Cocoon PMC and that all Lenya
> committers will go in the Cocoon PMC.

> Now, IIUC you suggest that in this case we don't need a PPMC.

Sam says:

> > Clearly the incubator is needed in this scenario so that the software
> > grant can be independently audited.  But is a PPMC needed in order to
> > teach me "The Apache Way"?  I would have thought that my credentials
> > would have been established by now.  :-P

The PPMC concept should not stop at the Incubator door.  It can be a
solution to the "umbrella problem", which is what Berin will try in XML.
The Lenya PPMC, for example, would become a subcommittee of the Cocoon PMC
when Lenya leaves the Incubator, with the Incubator PMC dropped out.

The PPMC is not a mechanism to teach Sam the "The Apache Way", but used as I
am describing it above, it would provide a structure for the Jakarta PMC to
teach "The Apache Way", and to help alleviate oversight issues.

	--- Noel

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