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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] New Incubator rules and scope definition (long)
Date Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:07:02 GMT

Leo Simons wrote:

> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>> Hence I ask to vote
> It's a big thing to vote on all at once.

Ok, got the message. In fact there are serious enough points to decide 
to split the vote.

> I still have
> question marks with some points. What I'm looking
> for is some signal that we are moving in a direction
> where the TLPs will actually *want* to follow
> incubation procedure (which would be a good sign
> of good functioning), *and* where all the oversight /
> due deligence (sp?) stuff is taken care of as well.
> That's our common goal, innit?


> Legally/officially, There are no *sub*projects in Apache, only Projects
> that are usually called Top Level Projects or TLP. Incubation of new
> communities that are intended to become a TLP is the responsibility of
> the Incubator PMC.
> For 'subprojects', the incubation responsibility is divided between the
> Incubator PMC and the TLP PMC.

Given the latest comments also by others, this seems the correct definition.

>> Incubator Scope
>> ================ 
> too many complex words :D
>> The Incubator [scope is]:
> rephrase:
>  2 - working with existing TLPs that are bringing in new codebases and/or
>    existing communities to help that TLP do its "subproject" "incubation"


>> 3 - definition of and maintainance of the policy projects should use
>>     when importing external codebases, therefore creating a clear
>>     audit trail for all donations 
> rephrase:
> 3 - definition and maintainance of all policies and procedures that
>    surround incubation

rephrase II:

  3 - definition and maintainance of all policies and procedures that
      projects should use when accepting code donations, therefore
      creating a clear audit trail

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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