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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: [RT] Incubator Reorg
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:43:58 GMT

Stitching the parts I find important to concentrate on.
(Sam, you can reply to my questions here for brevity and clarity)

Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Hmmm ... I am beginning to wonder about the semantic gap.  For a new
> "sub-project", e.g., a Lenya under Cocoon, we both agree that the Incubator
> is responsible to vette the clear title.  Are you saying that the primary
> responsibility for Community building should come from the Cocoon PMC?
> If so, then I think that the PPMC concept still provides the structure.  The
> PPMC would still be the Cocoon PMC (focusing on community), the Incubator
> PMC (focusing on clear title), and the Lenya codebase's committers.

Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> The PPMC concept should not stop at the Incubator door. It can be a 
> solution to the "umbrella problem", which is what Berin will try in
> XML. The Lenya PPMC, for example, would become a subcommittee of the
> Cocoon PMC when Lenya leaves the Incubator, with the Incubator PMC
> dropped out.
> The PPMC is not a mechanism to teach Sam the "The Apache Way", but
> used as I am describing it above, it would provide a structure for
> the Jakarta PMC to teach "The Apache Way", and to help alleviate
> oversight issues.

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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