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From "Adam R. B. Jack" <>
Subject Re: projects incubated by the incubator PMC
Date Sun, 07 Dec 2003 23:58:26 GMT

> Adam Jack contacted me personally just
> to shoot the shit about Ruper and I told him his code would be welcome
> in Maven.

I was hoping that Apache was somehow Utopian and folks could co-operate,
bury ego, and work for the greater good of softwaredom, yada yada. When you
invited the Ruper code to become part of Wagon in Maven, you clearly
explained that certain folks at Apache would not feel welcome there. That is
disappointingly limiting to me, since in my world view, community is as
valuable as code, and we are trying to satisfy repository@apache not less.
Naive, or not, I still hold out hope of working with as many people as

I think it is great that Wagon is being developed as actively as it is, but
it is far from mature & it/Ruper have different approaches to solving the
problem. Introducing Ruper into Wagon or Wagon into Ruper, at this point,
would probably confuse each's design & simply server to dissatisfy both
teams/goals. I figure Ruper deserves a shot equal to the one you've granted
to Wagon.

It seems to me that having Ruper available, gives Apache another shot at
solving the problem, and if/when a time for an equal opportunity merge
arose, I'd be game to cooperate with it.



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