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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: Add 'practice' PMC structure to projects in incubation
Date Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:43:33 GMT
> > At some point, hopefully not too far down the pike, the
> > Committer is voted into the PMC.  Until that happens,
> > the Committer does not have a binding vote.  Cannot
> > have a binding vote, because to have one outside of the
> > legal structure would expose the Committer.

> Can you explain exactly what you mean by the last sentence above?

As I understand the situation, the ASF Bylaws are setup in a specific manner
so as to provide legal protection in the event that someone should want to
file a lawsuit.  The mechanism that affords that protection is the PMC.  For
more detail, see Roy's message:

When the James project was initially looking at TLP status, Nicola Ken
forwarded a message from Roy that included a comment to the effect that if
Committers understood their legal exposure, they would demand TLP status,
rather than needing to be pushed into it.  At least that is my recollection
of it.  I don't believe that I really understood the whole issue until the
past few days, and I am only assuming that my understanding of it is correct
now.  But if I am right, the upshot is that in order to be protected, you
either cannot have a binding vote, or you have to be on the PMC.

Hopefully, Roy will either affirm this understanding, or correct my error.

	--- Noel

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