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From Jason van Zyl <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project
Date Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:11:59 GMT
On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:47, Brian. W. Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 12:36, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > So the ASF has actually received messages from Apache indians that are
> > offended by the use of the name Apache?
> I don't know... take it up with the board.  I do, however, know that
> using Native American/American Indian names for just about anything is a
> hotbed of controversy.
> I'm not going to go tit-for-tat with you about the Apache feather and
> every other little detail of the ASF brand here--I don't have time for
> that.  I've voted -1 and said my piece here.

How about actually taking some time to find out if it's really offensive
instead of just guessing?

It's not like it's "Geronimo: the society of baby seal clubbers" or
something nasty like that. It's a piece of free software that gives
people some choice and it uses the name of a native indian hero. So some
coke and twinkie consuming, pasty white programmer might actually learn
something from looking up Geronimo.

> -Fitz
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Jason van Zyl

In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society

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