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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: JIRA @ ASF (was: Re: policy question)
Date Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:36:35 GMT

Jeff Turner wrote:
> James Strachan wrote:
> > Though there's no reason, given some hardware and a volunteer, why we
> > couldn't install JIRA at Apache.

> [if] infrastructure peeps prefer to keep bugtrackers on ASF hardware

Well, that was the question being raised.  Should those tools be on ASF
hardware?  Kitahata-san raises the same question about Forrestbot, which has
also been raised as a concern in the past.  Wasn't there a discussion many
months ago about doing a Forrestbot pilot on moof?  And Stephen is in the
process of migrating cocoonwiki to the new ASF server.

> I volunteer :)  Hacking JIRA is my day job.

I think it would be helpful to have a discussion and consensus on which
issue tracking tool should be adopted, and why, but it ought to be ASF-wide.
I don't believe that it makes sense for us to use multiple tools in the same

Personally, I think that one criteria (but only one) ought to be having
people eager and available to maintain whatever tool is adopted.  For JIRA,
we have you and Henri Yandell volunteering to help admin the tool.  For
bugzilla, we've really got no one who seems devoted to it (or they just stay
quiet).  Both Scarab and bugzilla apparently have made great strides
elsewhere, but their ASF installations have languished, and haven't been
anyone's priority to maintain.  Both are scheduled to be updated as soon as
a major operating system update to nagoya is completed, but that's been

	--- Noel

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