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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: cvs commit: incubator-altrmi/lib/optional excalibur-lifecycle-1.0.jar
Date Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:47:24 GMT

Aaron Bannert wrote, On 17/03/2003 8.25:
> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 02:50  PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>> Anyway, I'm curious: since I develop only java and I don't use other 
>> languages since the universtity (so take this question with the same 
>> grain of salt ;-) , what would have you thought could have been done 
>> instead of putting the jar in CVS?
> If they are a product of the project, then they would just be a local
> dependency of the build system.


> If they are the product of another project, then the developer
> would just download and build/install that other project.

Hmmm, so here start the problems. A Java project can have a lot of 
dependencies, and making all developers download all these projects and 
use them has been found out to be a major PITA and time killer.

As for installing... well java deliverables are never installed, just 
copied in the right dir.

> As for these particular jars, where do they come from and what
> do they do? (And who owns them?)

The one pointed out by your original mail


comes from Apache Avalon Excalibur Lifecycle.

Most of the projects depend mainly on Apache jars, but there are also 
jars from many other OS projects.

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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