From user-return-7158-apmail-flume-user-archive=flume.apache.org@flume.apache.org Fri Oct 2 09:53:06 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flume-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flume-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53DED17F8B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35283 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2015 09:53:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flume-user-archive@flume.apache.org Received: (qmail 35218 invoked by uid 500); 2 Oct 2015 09:53:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@flume.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@flume.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@flume.apache.org Received: (qmail 35197 invoked by uid 99); 2 Oct 2015 09:53:05 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:53:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 751821A0760; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:53:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.65 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.65 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=3, KAM_EU=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YVYGZeEyo0YU; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com (mail-ig0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 6B5812054A; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igbkq10 with SMTP id kq10so13609640igb.0; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:52:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Esv98v7/fAelYTD5X1lfdp99fM+1yCaMQwGyHBI0KiY=; b=IenpLoYKE7NJW3HG47whhbaa60aouslQJaI8FLPlbPT/un9HF9J+fKhyq7LI5eVzwJ T5RIsCaXJwXOSMyzUFU2n5OXDJ5IUxXKpkGZHQDc2m+Sc5q2uLuzM6bMIU4PbR2gYCRe 1x6ywqhXhPiiyymsc1Y4mC3SGxdLnkjQ1XD0pf5D4QwJYalwKgr+FDwowKvj6JAEa3WT nXHIAs14uuLxhSgV/pLosgtW8qszwbwxDOZIlmIEnbcN8w+5fP0yRwduE2FaZMMOfHHx TEYap/YHMlbZcx6oL5jAE4QKWfQ/ILmYUBeHcoKAGBu1eqCZb+ydA+UfmMBrX9Ym9ELt DduA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.79.232 with SMTP id m8mr3182464igx.83.1443779569365; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.15.210 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 02:52:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1443762414.43418.ezmlm@flume.apache.org> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:22:49 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WELCOME to user@flume.apache.org From: Shiva Ram To: user@flume.apache.org Cc: user-help@flume.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a06065db9bc05211c2062 --089e013a06065db9bc05211c2062 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Ahmed Vila. I will consider the suggestions you have mentioned above when I design the flume agent. *Thanks & Regards,* *Shiva Ram* *Website: http://datamaking.com Facebook Page: www.facebook.com/datamaking * On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Ahmed Vila wrote: > Hi Shiva, > > If your files are immutable (once the file is placed in a directory, they > won't be changed ever afterwards), then the best source to use is spooling > directory. > If the files are mutable, then avoid spooling directory source as Flume > will throw an exception and shut the source down, so you'll have to restart > it. > > You can put flume on a different server than the one where files reside > and have that folder mounted as a local folder via NFS or similar. > That isn't an option if you'll mount source folder across the firewall, > two networks or an internet. > > With exec source it's hard to achieve cross-node execution as it will have > to execute a real bash command you provide it with on a remote node. > If you still achieve it, it will be very slow due to constant SSH > negotiation. > > Either way, I would most definitely recommend to put flume on a same node > where the source folder is, or at least closest to the source like in the > same network. > That way you can minimize influence of network jitters and dropouts to the > source. All sources that pull data will fail ungracefully if they encounter > an error fetching data and you'll end up restarting flume. > > If the HDFS is cross-network or across the internet, I would suggest > bonding two flumes on both sides of a wire via AvroSink on source node and > AvroSource on destination node since they support fundamental things for > such harsh transport environment, like serialization, compression, SSL > security over a single TCP connection and a need to have only one port open > etc. > Then, you configure Flume on destination to drain via HdfsSink into the > HDFS. > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Shiva Ram > wrote: > >> Set files are placed in the remote server[not a hadoop cluster node], >> which source type is suitable for collecting these files from remote server >> to HDFS using Flume. The initial study on Flume, I came to know source type >> "Exec", "Spooling Directory" can be used to collect these file, I want to >> know whether Flume service should run the remote server[source system from >> where i want to get the data]? Thanks. >> >> *Thanks & Regards,* >> >> *Shiva Ram* >> *Website: http://datamaking.com Facebook Page: >> www.facebook.com/datamaking * >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM, wrote: >> >>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the >>> user@flume.apache.org mailing list. >>> >>> Acknowledgment: I have added the address >>> >>> shivaram.hadoop2015@gmail.com >>> >>> to the user mailing list. >>> >>> Welcome to user@flume.apache.org! >>> >>> Please save this message so that you know the address you are >>> subscribed under, in case you later want to unsubscribe or change your >>> subscription address. >>> >>> >>> --- Administrative commands for the user list --- >>> >>> I can handle administrative requests automatically. 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Thanks=C2=A0Ahmed Vila.

I will consider the suggestions you have mentioned a= bove when I design the flume agent.

Thanks &= ; Regards,

<= div>Shiva Ram

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Ahmed Vila <= span dir=3D"ltr"><avila@devlogic.eu> wrote:
=
Hi Shiva,

If your files are immutable (= once the file is placed in a directory, they won't be changed ever afte= rwards), then the best source to use is spooling directory.
If th= e files are mutable, then avoid spooling directory source as Flume will thr= ow an exception and shut the source down, so you'll have to restart it.=

You can put flume on a different server than the = one where files reside and have that folder mounted as a local folder via N= FS or similar.
That isn't an option if you'll mount sourc= e folder across the firewall, two networks or an internet.
With exec source it's hard to achieve cross-node execution= as it will have to execute a real bash command you provide it with on a re= mote node.
If you still achieve it, it will be very slow due to c= onstant SSH negotiation.

Either way, I would most = definitely recommend to put flume on a same node where the source folder is= , or at least closest to the source like in the same network.
Tha= t way you can minimize influence of network jitters and dropouts to the sou= rce. All sources that pull data will fail ungracefully if they encounter an= error fetching data and you'll end up restarting flume.
=
If the HDFS is cross-network or across the internet, I would= suggest bonding two flumes on both sides of a wire via AvroSink on source = node and AvroSource on destination node since they support fundamental thin= gs for such harsh transport environment, like serialization, compression, S= SL security over a single TCP connection and a need to have only one port o= pen etc.
Then, you configure Flume on destination to drain via Hd= fsSink into the HDFS.

=

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 a= t 7:08 AM, Shiva Ram <shivaram.hadoop2015@gmail.com> wrote:
Set files ar= e placed in the remote server[not a hadoop cluster node], which source type= is suitable for collecting these files from remote server to HDFS using Fl= ume. The initial study on Flume, I came to know source type "Exec"= ;, "Spooling Directory" can be used to collect these file, I want= to know whether Flume service should run the remote server[source system f= rom where i want to get the data]? Thanks.

Thanks & Regards,

= Shiva Ram

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