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From Antoine Levy Lambert <anto...@gmx.de>
Subject Re: Drop Support for Java5, Move on to Ant 1.10.0?
Date Mon, 07 Mar 2016 02:10:30 GMT
I like the idea of Michael to develop on the master branch against Java 1.8 and to have a long
term support branch for Java 1.6 or Java 1.7.

Yes that would increase the amount of time needed to make releases. 

We might not necessarily release both builds at the same time every time since the Java 1.6
branch might get less work done on it, and quickly it would become a pain to maintain the
backport branch based on the master branch if we start taking advantage of java 1.8 features.

I would be happy too with just upgrading the required version to Java 1.7 for now after Ant
1.9.7 and starting to take advantage of Java API’s introduced in Java 1.7.

Regards,

Antoine


On Mar 6, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Michael Clarke <mclarke@apache.org> wrote:

> I personally don't think we should constrain ourselves to supporting End of
> Life'd versions of Java: anyone wanting to use an older version of Java can
> download an older version of Ant. That being said, Ant doesn't introduce
> major new features particularly often so we may not be losing too much by
> not using the latest Java APIs available to us.
> 
> My preference would be to move our mainline development to compile against
> the current versions of Java with public support - so currently Java 1.8
> and 1.9 - with an increment in minor version number of Ant to reflect this
> change that may break some peoples' environments. I also think we should
> consider creating a "Long Term Support" style branch for the previous
> version where we back-port fixes where possible - i.e. where any changed
> dependencies don't require a new version of Java, and the changed code
> hasn't used a new Java API and isn't specifically introducing new features.
> This may increase the work required to perform a release, but the back-port
> of fixes is manageable given our use of Git, and can be pretty thoroughly
> checked with our automated Unit and Integration tests. We may also have to
> perform some work on our Bugzilla to make it clear which issues need ported
> between versions, or only affect a specific release branch of Ant.
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael
> 
> On 6 March 2016 at 17:09, Andre-John mas <andrejohn.mas@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Consider Enterprise is often 2 versions (maybe 3 versions) behind latest
>> JDK, at lease based on my own experience, so 7 should still be included?
>> 
>> Sent from my tablet
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 10:31, Fernando Cassia <fcassia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 3/6/16, Stefan Bodewig <bodewig@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> I think it's time to drop support for Java5 and - as we've done in the
>>>> past - bump the second part of Ant's version number to reflect the
>>>> change.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure whether moving to Java6 is worth the effort since it has
>>>> been EOLed as well, even Java7 is no longer officially supported by
>>>> Oracle
>>> 
>>> Isn't Java 6 the baseline API for Android development? Do Android IDEs
>> use ant?
>>> Just thinking aloud...
>>> 
>>>> but personally I wouldn't want to require Java8 right now.
>>> 
>>> Why? OpenJDK 8 is included in most Linux distros.
>>> 
>>>> So do we want to move on and if so, what should become our new baseline?
>>> 
>>> That's a timely and relevant discussion, as just an ant user, and a
>>> lurker on this list, I'm all ears. :)
>>> 
>>> FC
>>> 
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