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From "Kevin Jackson" <foamd...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Ant log statements being created even when not used
Date Tue, 26 Sep 2006 01:54:46 GMT
First,

Thanks for the thoughtful responses.  I'm beginnning to understand how
the Ant logging mechanism works now :)

Second, I agree 1.7 cannot be changed at this late date to fit in a
logging cludge!

Third, I came across the problem with a particularly long-running
build, and it was less of a CPU load problem and more of a max JVM mem
limit problem.

I understand some builds may be the other way around and introducing
guard statements would add CPU overhead, whereas the memory isn't so
tightly constrained.  This is why I wanted to spark a discussion, to
see if there is a way we can get Ant to only do the necessary work
*when* it's necessary.  In the example/article D uses lazy or partial
evaluation to sort of get around this.  In other languages there are
other mechanisms.  In Java perhaps there's a way of refactoring the
logging such that Strings are re-used (use static final String and
build logging from them?), or a way of getting the building code to
short-circuit before constructing the string (as in D).

I'd like to put logging enhancements/improvements up there with
distributing a default scripting language for 1.8 timeframe

Yes, let's improve logging (if possible) to reduce memory/cpu load for 1.8 [ ]
No, it's not a big problem (and besides your use-case is weird!) [ ]

Thanks,
Kev

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