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From Antoine Levy-Lambert <>
Subject Re: Building Ant 1.7beta
Date Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:06:43 GMT
Hello Jesse,

when someone is developing ant inside an IDE, I believe that the  
IDE's default functionality is good enough to work, because ant is  
for the most part a java library.

you can modify ant classes in the IDE, then run the corresponding  
JUnit tests, and you do not need all the bootstrap scripts etc to do  



On Aug 30, 2006, at 4:31 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:

> Stefan Bodewig wrote:
>> Sometimes we build new features that are useful enough to apply the
>> right away in Ant's own build file.
> Obviously. But it seems to me that the convenience of the many  
> users of Ant (sources) outstrips the convenience of the few Ant  
> developers. For example, it is impossible to develop the Ant trunk  
> in NetBeans using the bundled Ant 1.6.5 unless you write a wrapper  
> script which execs, which is unpleasant. Similarly you  
> could not use a bundled Ant binary on Linux to run ant/build.xml  
> targets (or use Bash completions...).
> To Jan: I meant only keeping compatibility with the previous  
> official Ant release, in this case 1.6.5.
> To Kev: surely most Ant committers work on at least one other Ant- 
> based project where improvements can be seen? Or does the Apache  
> Foundation pay your rent? :-)
> Just wondering why an Ant release is expected to be used by many  
> thousands of Java programmers for every purpose you can think of,  
> yet it's not good enough for Ant itself which is a pretty small  
> project. I don't feel strongly about it though.
> -J.
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