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From Antoine Lévy-Lambert <>
Subject AW: Ant 1.6
Date Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:26:32 GMT

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stefan Bodewig []
Gesendet: Montag, 22. September 2003 16:41
Betreff: Re: Ant 1.6

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Antoine Lévy-Lambert <>

>> - sort out if possible the CLASSPATH issue by :

>What you propose would probably work.

>On the other hand, Launcher could give us a chance to break away from
>the "everything is on a single classpath, which is as good as the
>system classpath" architecture of Main that, I fear, won't scale.

>Add -lib will solve some problem, the same sort of problems that can
>be solved by not using Launcher but Main.  I'm not sure whether it
>would prevent us from solving a different set of problems.

>All in all, I'm a bit neutral here as I fail to see all consequences.

Making this change (-lib) will allow people using ant from the command line
to still see their usual commands or batches working.

For instance, there are some custom tasks for which some of the extra jar
files required can only be specified via CLASSPATH in ant 1.5.4 ... and not
at all with the current ant 1.6.

This does not prevent us from improving the ant class loading system.

>> - remove the classloader from ant 1.6 simply by removing the
>> corresponding line from in the ANT_16_BRANCH (is
>> this enough ?)

>I'd rather remove the class from the 1.6 branch.

OK, I did not know that it is possible in CVS to remove a file selectively
just from a branch. Will do this.

>> - get the beta build running afterwards.

>What is your opinion on bugs and enhancement requests in bugzilla?
>There is always one enhancement request or another that every single
>one of us would like to see integrated into the next release.

>Given last weekend's reports, I'd like to add a roundup attribute to
><zip>, which would address 17934 (two votes, at least).

>Where would you draw the line in the sand for enhancements?  Bugs are
>always open unless you need a freeze to get a clean build, I assume.

I would like to get the first beta compiled on Thursday evening or at the
latest on Monday next week. (September 29th).


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