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From Stefan Bodewig <>
Subject Re: [PATCH] adds 'if'/'unless' to <antcall> (
Date Wed, 27 Nov 2002 09:37:22 GMT
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Dominique Devienne <> wrote:

> Every time the debate starts again, and committers start refusing
> this generalized if/unless issue to save me from shooting myself in
> the foot, it makes my cringe. If you don't want to use it, then
> don't.

My point is that people will not look for a different solution when
they find one that meets the way the think it should work.

> Does Ant really want to be swallowed by Jelly?

That won't happen.  Jelly shows that one can use Ant inside scripty
stuff without forcing it into Ant's core - this is how it should be

> And personally, the if/unless/antcall debate would be moot if the
> nested <depends target/if/unless> with proper static dependency
> analysis was introduced,

I must admit that I had not followed the discussion of that at all.
All I can find ATM is a patch in bugzilla that on its own doesn't tell
me how it would solve this discussion.  I don't see the benefit of the
task over splitting test2 in three targets in the description.

> The refusal to embrace XML namespace, which are increasingly being
> used with XML and is a natural fit to partition XML dialect, is not
> a good sign either.

Who refused to embrace it?  There are just different opinions on what
they should be used for and how.

> Maybe I'm making it more dramatic than it really is,

I hope so.


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