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From Costin Manolache <>
Subject RE: [PATCH] User defined types and tasks to be loaded before defa ult ones are...
Date Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:24:25 GMT
Dominique Devienne wrote:

> I don't understand why you need to load custom tasks/types before the Core
> tasks/types. The current mechanism for loading them seems OK to me
> (awaiting <antlib> for a better mechanism though).

I don't know about his use case - for me it's saving the 4 seconds on 
startup and avoiding a lot of ugly code dealing with reloading
optional tasks in a different loader.

I use some code that allows adding junit.jar ( or other dependencies )
inside build.xml ( instead of ant.home/lib ), and this works by reloading
junit and similar tasks with a different loader. Lazy loading would 
avoid this.

In general, there is no reason to not allow the core tasks to be 

> I personally believe we need a mechanism to load and configure other types
> of Ant extension points (Mappers, Conditions, Selectors, Filters,
> XmlCatalog resolvers, and even custom extension points) similarly to
> what's currently possible for tasks/types, which is good enough for now.

I think we do have one already :-)

Any task can call methods in Project and core and add whatever hooks it

For example in order to plug a particular antlib impl or a PropertyHelper
you just have a regular task that calls the add method.

It is easy to add "magic" - i.e. if a task implement one of the hooks
interfaces we can add it automatically, but it's more flexible and
clean to let the task control that ( apache2 modules follow the same
model, there is a single "module" that can add itself to any hook ).

> By that I mean ways to configure the custom class using complex Ant
> objects represented as nested XML elements, share classloader, and have
> access to the Project reference.

I think we're on the same page. 


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