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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Ant as a top-level project
Date Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:31:35 GMT

Peter Donald wrote:
> Hi,
> I think there is a few different proposals here. 
> Could/Should Ant be a top level project? We have at least one ASF Member 
> (Stefan) so we should "qualify". Do we have enough active members to ensure 
> healthy progression ? 
> Personally I think it would be healthy for Apache if Ant (or a set of build 
> related projects) moved to their own top-level project. A possible 
> "federation" may be gump, ant, maven, centipede and alexandria (but in 
> graveyard mode). This would hopefully make it more likely that people have a 
> direct control in their own destiny and would also help promote 
> responsibility in the committers.
> So my opinion would be +1 for a top level project. Whether it is 
> or or whatever I don't think is really that 
> relevent.
> It would also help to get jakarta get back to its original scope which Ant is 
> clearly outside of.
> Whether Centipede, Anteater or any other ant based products written by Apache 
> peeps comes to this project is another question. I have no problem with it as 
> long as they go through and graduate from when it gets 
> it's feet.

Excuses about my reference to Centipede in Ant, it was indeed just a 
stone in the water, not a formal proposal.

The original plan was indeed to eventually make it pass the incubator, 
and what I envisioned was just _one_ possible outcome.

Anyway, the reference server its purpose since you guys are getting out 
your thoughts clear, and I like it :-)

 From a person involved in Ant but not committer:
  +1 for
  +1 for a _federation_ for Ant, Gump, Maven, etc...

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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